The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
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neilbennet
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Hi, I seem to have lost track, I am following along very slowly behind you, please do you have a written plan, simple and step by step please, are you ok to share and do you have an end plan, I would love to drive up next to you one day in a car park and compare how we got there. Elite and Elite together one day, cheers Neil 
Lotus Elite 1974
Jensens - Healeys, GT, Interceptor III
Gilbern Invader
Derby Bentley
Jensens - Healeys, GT, Interceptor III
Gilbern Invader
Derby Bentley
- MetBlue
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
I've had so many plans Neil, that I've run out of letters in the alphabet. Sorry but nothing is written down, but I'd say the best plan is to tackle one area at a time and actually see the results/ progress.please do you have a written plan, simple and step by step please, are you ok to share and do you have an end plan
I must admit though, I'm not disciplined enough to Walk the walk. Do as I say, not as I do.
Tony
What goes together.... Must come apart.
- MetBlue
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Playing with Vacuum head lights - I know why people change them to Electric. - What a phaff.
I bought a generic vacuum pump for Diesel Brake Servo's, so I could rebuild the Vac headlights and see how long they'd stay down without having a running engine.
Initially I bypassed the solenoid valves, drew vacuum, pods went down, but within a few minutes they were up again. Blanked off one pod, repeated and vacuum leaked away even quicker ! - Puzzled.
After much testing, I came to the conclusion the NRV wasn't reliable / repeatable ( it was a new plastic valve from a brake booster as I knew the brass Lotus original wasn't doing anything).
Then removed the accumulator and it rattled - full of rust.

I know for sure the vacuum pods will be similar. I can only conclude that I was drawing debris into the NRV.
I have a couple of in line filters ( originally planned to go between the pod and the solenoid valve). One of those is going immediately before the NRV when I get delivery of some new fittings, valves and pipes.
I'm also thinking I'll mix up some resin and wash through the accumulator, which should both seal the inside and stick any remaining bits to the inside.
All I'm trying to do at the moment is draw a Vacuum on an Accumulator and some blanked off pipes and seal it with an NRV (with a Vac gauge in circuit so I can see how quick it decays). What can be so difficult ? Funny stuff VACUUM. It just sucks up all the muck.
On the plus side, the very fact I'm posting this says we have yet another restart on this glacially slow project.
Tony
I bought a generic vacuum pump for Diesel Brake Servo's, so I could rebuild the Vac headlights and see how long they'd stay down without having a running engine.
Initially I bypassed the solenoid valves, drew vacuum, pods went down, but within a few minutes they were up again. Blanked off one pod, repeated and vacuum leaked away even quicker ! - Puzzled.
After much testing, I came to the conclusion the NRV wasn't reliable / repeatable ( it was a new plastic valve from a brake booster as I knew the brass Lotus original wasn't doing anything).
Then removed the accumulator and it rattled - full of rust.
I know for sure the vacuum pods will be similar. I can only conclude that I was drawing debris into the NRV.
I have a couple of in line filters ( originally planned to go between the pod and the solenoid valve). One of those is going immediately before the NRV when I get delivery of some new fittings, valves and pipes.
I'm also thinking I'll mix up some resin and wash through the accumulator, which should both seal the inside and stick any remaining bits to the inside.
All I'm trying to do at the moment is draw a Vacuum on an Accumulator and some blanked off pipes and seal it with an NRV (with a Vac gauge in circuit so I can see how quick it decays). What can be so difficult ? Funny stuff VACUUM. It just sucks up all the muck.
On the plus side, the very fact I'm posting this says we have yet another restart on this glacially slow project.
Tony
What goes together.... Must come apart.
- MetBlue
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Some satisfying progress. - Wheels
Before:

After:

Done by Spit & Polish in Tonbridge following experiences from users of the forum that they know what they are doing with the 50 year old alloys.
The paint colour is the closest match they could find to the original. I took some paint flakes of the wheels before refurb. Not easy to photograph as light reflections make a massive difference to the look on camera. For reference, the colour is Tesla Sonic Carbon Grey.

This progress was quite easy really. All I had to do was put my hand in pocket and wave a card
Before:
After:
Done by Spit & Polish in Tonbridge following experiences from users of the forum that they know what they are doing with the 50 year old alloys.
The paint colour is the closest match they could find to the original. I took some paint flakes of the wheels before refurb. Not easy to photograph as light reflections make a massive difference to the look on camera. For reference, the colour is Tesla Sonic Carbon Grey.
This progress was quite easy really. All I had to do was put my hand in pocket and wave a card
What goes together.... Must come apart.
- Alan_M
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Wow 

Those look amazing - let’s hope they can salvage mine!
Those look amazing - let’s hope they can salvage mine!
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Pete Boole
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Fantastic! Wish I'd had mine done
They're going to look great on the car.
Pete
They're going to look great on the car.
Pete
- AndrewWebber
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
I'm pleased for you, always a worry when you make a recommendation...
Just the rest to finish now, another Elite for LITP 20XX?
Andy
Just the rest to finish now, another Elite for LITP 20XX?
Andy
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Not easy to photograph, but the lower grill (batch manufactured via Mr Boole) was too long to fit in my car.
Investigation at the weekend revealed that the crash boards in my car are 30 mm thick !!!
This is an early car, so would appear to be another case of passing crash tests with flying colours, so having the opportunity for a bit of VE (somewhere earlier in this thread, I'm sure I will have mentioned the door beams are made from much heavier gauge steel than later cars).
In other news, the Photo below may look to most like a typical car 30mins after being parked up, with a lazy eye :
But not too me. To me it's a miracle.
The pod plus a short pipe length and a blanking plug are the only items in the vac circuit. I pushed the pod to closed, inserted the blanking plug, then let the spring pressure create a vacuum and achieve this equilibrium position. 48 hours later, it was unchanged, i.e. I now have a vac pod that is pretty much 100% vacuum tight
Now to do some further tests introducing valves (which I know will leak to some extent, but at least I finally have a baseline to start from).
What goes together.... Must come apart.
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Pete Boole
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Do they look like two pieces bonded together or can't you tell? Good work on the vacuum pod!
Pete
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Difficult to tell, but I'd say 2 boards. The top edge is very well finished, with fibreglass and a full radius. They are in "as new" condition - not the slightest sign of rot anywhere.Do they look like two pieces bonded together or can't you tell?
If only my Excel was the same.
What goes together.... Must come apart.
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Back to Vacuum pods, the other side just won't seal as well as the one reported above. However someone on Faceplant has reported this week on opening the pods up, repairing the insides, then successfully recrimping. I might just have to give that a try. I'll put something on here if / when I decide to open one up.
Currently juggling a few jobs

Currently juggling a few jobs
- The front lower grill ( Pete B special mentioned above) is now shortened by 10mm and fits
. Just now sorting a couple of tabs to fix it - Photo soon.
- That has lead on to a repair of the A/C Condenser - pipe got crushed during a house move. Fortunately on the very last run through the matrix, at the end next to the connection. Even more fortunate, the pipe is standard 10mm OD copper so easy to cut out the crush area and solder in a repair section)
- Spraying Bumpers Satin Black - progressing well, but on hold now - Just too cold and damp to be spraying paint
- And the Vac headlight system, which we should get back to soon
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Pete Boole
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Good progress Tony! Note to self - get cracking!!
Pete
Pete
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Keep going (both of you).....
Andy
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Petes promised (!!!!!!!!) to be at Lotus in the Peak with his next summer. Are you going to be the same ?
Bash
( Pete was renamed Rodney for a while at this years event. "This time next year we will all be........)
Bash
( Pete was renamed Rodney for a while at this years event. "This time next year we will all be........)
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Re: The longest Elite Resto ? - probably
Interesting . I might start mine

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