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Qwertyco
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Re: Grand Tourers Register

Post by Qwertyco »

Not sure if you have my '83 Excel on the list?
I'll pm you the details.
It's Monaco white with red 1/2 leather.
I've owned it since 1989.
SORN since 2007, but nothing wrong with it.
Mike.
"Life is like a Dancing Monkey, - Pretty amusing, until it starts to lob faeces at you"

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Just letting you know that we have lost a Eclat. A Club Lotus Staffs member had a garage fire possibly caused by a freezer. It completely destroyed 2 classics including the Eclat and damaged a third. His house was also slightly damaged. The reg was XNG688S, blue newly enlarged to 2.2 litre.
Cheers, Phil
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Terrible news. Must be devastating when such things happen.
This wasn't on the register, but I'll add. If you know the owner and could ask what the chassis / engine numbers were it would be good please Phil. do you know if the 2.2 L engine was the original bored and stroked or a replacement?
Tony
What goes together.... Must come apart.

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OK I will ask him...
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Crowman30
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I noticed in one of the pictures, the blue Excel on the top right, reg no. F110ECK belongs to Jay Emm and can be seen on Youtube.
Don.

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Hawaiis0 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 19:55
MetBlue wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 08:50
Stu. Do you have the reg nos for the bottom row of cars?
Tony
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Funny , not -legally- on the road since 2013, but listed as insured.

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Marten wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 21:55
Hawaiis0 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 19:55
MetBlue wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 08:50
Stu. Do you have the reg nos for the bottom row of cars?
Tony
SF-LZ-46
Funny , not -legally- on the road since 2013, but listed as insured.
I got special SORN insurance for my car while it was off the road when I rebuilt the engine.
"Farmer" Richard

1990 Lotus Excel SE (Lilith)
2022 MG MG5 EV (not due to be a classic for quite a few years...)
2011 Nissan Leaf (Ragly - EV pioneer, must be due to be a classic one day)

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rbgosling wrote:
Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:40
Marten wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 21:55
Hawaiis0 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 19:55


SF-LZ-46
Funny , not -legally- on the road since 2013, but listed as insured.
I got special SORN insurance for my car while it was off the road when I rebuilt the engine.
but surely not the third party liabilty, which probably is a bit iffy for a non MOT'd car ?
But maybe it is part of a collection under an umbrella policy

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Crowman30 wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 00:01
I noticed in one of the pictures, the blue Excel on the top right, reg no. F110ECK belongs to Jay Emm and can be seen on Youtube.
Don.
This was sold a fair while ago to another TLF member. He also had another Excel (white) - a V8 conversion. Pictures are no longer on TLF, so have no more info than that.

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Tanz wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 22:24
OK I will ask him...
This is what he sent me

Image
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Thanks Phil.
Some good info in that letter in addition to the car details.
Tony
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Re: Grand Tourers Register

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That's an interesting last paragraph in the provenance letter.
Series 1 starts at 0100D and runs to 0956D + 0960D. That would equate to only 857 Series 1 Eclat's.

Page 28 of Matthew Vales Enthusiasts guide concludes 1,296, although he does state this is an average of a number of varying sources.
That's quite a big difference though.

Anyone with an Eclat willing to share the VIN plate I'd appreciate hearing from you via PM. I've got a good number of V plate Eclat's on the register but don't know VIN's.
The latest VIN I do have is 0800D, which I believe was built March 79. - It's the T plate car currently for sale on Ebay at £15K.

Tony
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MetBlue wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 20:37
That's an interesting last paragraph in the provenance letter.
Series 1 starts at 0100D and runs to 0956D + 0960D. That would equate to only 857 Series 1 Eclat's.

Page 28 of Matthew Vales Enthusiasts guide concludes 1,296, although he does state this is an average of a number of varying sources.
That's quite a big difference though.

Anyone with an Eclat willing to share the VIN plate I'd appreciate hearing from you via PM. I've got a good number of V plate Eclat's on the register but don't know VIN's.
The latest VIN I do have is 0800D, which I believe was built March 79. - It's the T plate car currently for sale on Ebay at £15K.

Tony
It doesn't include left hand drive Eclat's. I assume Matthew Vale included all Eclat's.
Cheers, Phil
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Doooh : Good point Phil.
Pretty obvious really. There had to be an explanation with such a big difference.
Tony
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Re: Grand Tourers Register

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Question time.

Anyone know if any LHD Excels were actually made. Without exports to America, I'm sure demand would be low.
Back to Matthew Vales book, it states 2158 as best guess total production. Taking the difference between first and last UK destined serial numbers, I get 1993 RHD cars. Possible I suppose that the other 165 are RHD exports to countries that drive on the correct side of the road - or a mix of exported Left and right hand drive.
Tony
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