I'm leaking voltage

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I'm leaking voltage

Post by rbgosling »

Good afternoon all!!

I usually try to believe that our car electrics are pretty straightforward, and any fault should be diagnosable with a logical, methodical approach and careful reading of the circuit diagrams. But I have an issue that doesn't make sense...

For some time now I've had gauge readings that don't look right - voltage too low, coolant temperature too low (both from what I'd expect, but more importantly from what I've measured with an infrared thermometer), oil pressure too high. All of these could be consistent with too low a voltage at the gauge.

So, being methodical, I measured the voltage at various points along the route. All of these are with a freshly-charged battery (albeit one that seems to lose a lot of its charge if left for a week), engine not running.
  • 12.81 V at the battery, ignition off.
  • 12.49 V at the battery, ignition on. That's fine, with the fuel pump ticking it's OK to drop a little.
  • 12.35 V at Fuse 13, a 2A fuse that supplies (in order) low fuel module, low coolant module, fuel gauge, oil pressure gauge, coolant temperature gauge, volt meter, tachometer. The fuse has holes in the top so I can touch the terminals and make a measurement with the fuse in place.
  • 12.07 V at the fuel gauge connector, if it's not actually connected to the fuel gauge (other gauges still connected).
  • 12.00 V at the fuel gauge connector, if it is connected.
  • 11.73 V at the voltmeter connector (connected)
  • Voltmeter actually reads 11.5-ish, which I'd say is consistent enough with the measured voltage on the multimeter.
  • Replacing the fuse with the multimeter set to ammeter mode, the circuit pulls 1.1 A
Battery voltage was measured between terminals; all other measurements used the same earth point to ensure consistency, which is the bolt at the bottom of the fusebox.

All of these locations are connected by what should be decent bits of wire, so regardless of the current draw of the components they should all be at the same voltage. Any voltage drop, in theory, could only be due to resistance in the wire between the components. But if it's pulling 1.1 A, the voltage drop from the fuel gauge to the voltmeter, 0.27 V, must mean there's a resistance of 0.25 Ohms. In fact, the current along that stretch is probably less, because some of that 1.1 A will have been drawn by the fuel and coolant modules; less current must mean the resistance is even higher for a given voltage drop.

I cannot believe those wires have a resistance that high, I'd expect it to be more like 0.01 Ohms or less.

More investigation is probably needed - I could measure the current draw from each gauge (although the oil/coolant/tacho are more of a faff to reach than the fuel/volt gauges), as well as the voltage at the inner gauges. I could try disconnecting each gauge in turn, or connecting one at a time. But even with that extra info, I can't think of an explanation for this voltage loss.

ALSO does anyone know where the low fuel module and low coolant modules are located? Then I can try disconnecting them / measuring their current draw, to see what happens?
"Farmer" Richard

1990 Lotus Excel SE (Lilith)
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Re: I'm leaking voltage

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Circuit diagram of the relevant page:

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IHC = Instrument Harness Connector
RHC = Right Hand Connector
EHC = Engine Harness Connector

Not sure where these connectors are to be found...
"Farmer" Richard

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IHC is behind the instruments. RHC is in drivers footwell, as may be the EHC - can't quite remember!

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Re: I'm leaking voltage

Post by Lotus-e-Clan »

Section MH page 12 shows the 1989 MY earth route.

Battery earth to chassis is ahead or the rear crossmember on the right.
then ...

Front Chassis arm to Engine earth strap.
then ..

Engine earth strap to block.
then ...

Block to Pedalbox - which is the source of main harness earths, including the fuse box where you measured from.

The earths of the instruments of concern ( oil sender, temp sender) are from the engine block (which is where I'd go to first) and the fuse box and volt meter is from the pedal box (which ultimately is from the engine block).

So I'd be assessing the state of the earth strap and block connection first (as you've had the engine out relatively recently). If that's OK then go back to the battery to rear chassis earth.
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Re: I'm leaking voltage

Post by Hawaiis0 »

Low fuel module - is that the DECEL left hand side of tank wall?

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