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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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I'm in the centre of Norwich (near Toys R Us for them's wot no), but the Excel lives at my girlfriend's parents' house about 45 mins away.
I'll be away for a few weeks, but I may need some inspiration when the winter months draw in!
The blog was updated last Friday by the way with more pictures. The engine turns with a spanner on the crank and the chassis is in good nick so the project's a go! :)
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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

Post by johnthebass »

Hi Dan only just had a look at the photos. You've certainly got your work cut out to get things back to roadworthyness. How long has the car been "resting"? With so few Excels on the road it makes me wonder just how many are hidden in barns and outhouses etc
John

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Hi John,

The last tax disc says 1997. So that's when he came off the road due to a broken rear spring. Then was moved on a trailer to the resting place in the pictures in 2000 when the family moved and remained there until about 3 weeks ago and is now tucked away in a barn.

As far as "roadworthy" goes, if I can get him started (not put a battery on yet) the immediate list is all brakes, new tyres, clutch pedal and cylinders, spring and exhaust. Full service. Probably a rear light cluster too. That's assuming there's no electrical surprises. Can't see that there would be, I mean it's a 30 year old fibreglass British car that's been sat in a bush for over a decade. What could possibly go wrong? :)

"Restoration" will be another matter entirely.
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I've Re-Updated the blog!
The chassis is in good nick and the engine turns by hand. The best bit - It turns on the starter too and tried to cough into life on a squirt of easy-start! I feel like it's trying to drag itself back to life from the brink. It wants to be back on the road again, it's just my job to repair the things that are stopping it. Sentimental sod.

Any advice or reccommendations (other than "give up!") are welcomed as always.

Anyway, from http://www.danslotusproject.blogspot.com :


Today (actually yesterday) was a big day, I liberated a battery from my boat, which I MUST remember to put back tomorrow, and tried out the electrics, including the starter motor!

First I put back the 3 bolts I'd taken out of the oil cooler. Not exciting, but needed to be done.

So, battery in the boot:

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The eagle-eyed amongst you may notice it's not quite a factory-fit installation.
A lot of the electrics were a bit gammy, so sprayed some electrical cleaner in and gave them a wiggle.

Results so far:

Working - Brake lights, 1 fog lamp, high beam flash on N/S headlamp, left indicator, stereo, horn, dash lights, windscreen wiper, electric windows, heater fan.

Not working - Headlamp motors, right indicator flashes very quickly on front only, interior light, the other fog lamp, hazard lights, heater pointer (I can get screen or feet but not vent), fuel pump.


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No fuel pump means no starting, but I did crank it over with a bit of easy start down the intake trumpets (how could I not) and there was firing! Not running by any stretch, but he did try, and it's the taking part that counts.

Talking about taking (a)part. The fuel pump had to come out so I'll try and free it up at home. There's 3 wires attached, 1 black, 1 positive feed and one that looks like it goes to a capacitor on the body of the pump. The black needs unscrewing, the other two are just spade connectors. Then a 13 or 14mm spanner takes the pipes off, with an adjustable to hold the "socket" steady (otherwise you just twist the pipe and it springs back). I tied the clear lower one up out of the way because it looked like a direct feed from the apparently empty tank.
After that it's just 3 nuts to get a spanner on to remove as a unit. Worth bearing in mind that if you then take it home and leave it on the kitchen step in the garden, it'll get wet if it rains in the night. I'm a genius.

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The other job was to get the headlamp pods up. There's a knob between the front wheel and bumper on either side that you can apparently use to wind the headlight pods up manually in case you need to get yourself home. I say apparently as they were damned near jammed solid. Ended up getting a screwdriver on the end of the knob and doing it that way. mm by mm. Took ages!

From what I understand it only goes in one direction, has a mechanism on it like a medicine bottle, so the same rotation sends it up then down then up... I'm going to get an electric drill on it next time.

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"ooh, I think I've got a bit of sleep in my eye!"

So that's sunday's report. I'll be playing with the pump at some point this week and seeing if I can free it up.

One point of concern was that it looks like petrol's been leaking into the boot. I should probably fix that.

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Note: if any mod can make the pictures a bit smaller to fit the screen feel free.
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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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ive got a couple of old s.u pumps if you need any spare parts/points if you just want to try geting it going for now(replaced with solid state facit pump for reliability)

Terry.

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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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Hi Terry,
That would be really useful thanks.
I've taken the pump apart from the valve base and whipped the cover off the points. I've tried WD40 and contact cleaner, but it's still not doing anything when I connect it to the battery. Even when I push the plunger into the pump body by hand the points only work occasionally, and nothing under it's own power. :(
I'll get one of those facet things eventually.
Seeing as you're round my way if you PM me when's convenient and where to go I'll pop round and pick it up.
Cheers,
Dan
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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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Just letting you know, I got one of the pumps working so once I've sorted the fuel leak I'll stick some petrol in the tank and see how we go!
Thanks again.
Dan
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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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you got the pump working well done, have you got it to start yet?
give me a shout if you need a hand.

Cheers Terry

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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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Haven't been back apart from a quick visit to pick up the fuel pipe, planning to have a good few hours at it this weekend though.
I'll definitely be letting you know if it runs!
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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

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Full update to follow, but:
Managed to get one of Excel Tel's pumps to work.
All the fittings turned out to be different.
Swapped the old base onto the new motor and points.
Plumbed in the fuel feed line again (no longer leaking from the flowlock valve).
Gallon of unleaded.
New battery - thank you Halfords trade card!
Cooked one of the headlamp lift motors :(

Result:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaxhNfcLauU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTgmjMF0YqY

Big thanks to Terry for the pump.
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Nice clips on YouTube - sounds good 8) Keep up the good work. :D
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Thought of you today as I was passing Toys r us in the Excel. With an Esprit owner to get parts form Halfords having tried Wilco.

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Thanks for the thoughts and advice all. The blog's updated with the vids and more pictures now.
http://www.danslotusproject.blogspot.com
I'm all excited!
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Post by Radar »

Good clips on you tube, I even posted a comment! I will be in Norfolk over the next few days, would be good to take a gander if you are about and I can escape family committments for a while. I will be in my 'normal' car though

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Re: Blog about restoration of a "hedge fund" '86 Excel

Post by excel tel »

Well done for getting the pump working,I could not keep it running.
Hopefully with a good service of the engine it will be o.k

Thanks and happy to be of some help.

Terry.

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